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Archive-name: motif-faq/part1
Last-modified: Thu December 12 1992
Version: 2.12


Motif FAQ

[Last changed: 10 Dec 92]

This article contains the answers to some Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
often seen in comp.windows.x.motif. It is posted to help reduce volume in
this newsgroup and to provide hard-to-find information of general interest.

        Please redistribute this article!

This FAQ is maintained by Jan Newmarch ([e-mail]).  Send
updates and corrections to him at that mail address.  It would help if
the subject line contained the phrase "FAQ".

This article includes answers to the following questions. Ones marked with
a + indicate questions new to this issue; those with changes of content since
the last issue are marked by *:

 0) TOPIC: WHAT ARE OTHER RELEVANT NEWSGROUPS?
 1) TOPIC: FTP ARCHIVES
 2)* Is the FAQ list available for FTP anywhere?
 3)*  Is this newsgroup accessible via email?
 4) Is this newsgroup archived?
 5) Is the mail list motif-talk archived?
 6) TOPIC: OSF AND MOTIF
 7)*  What versions of Motif are there?
 8)*  Where can I get Motif?
 9) Is there a list of Motif bugs?
10) Where can I get public domain Motif source?
11)  Are the Motif examples publically available?
12)  Has anyone done a public domain Motif lookalike?
13) Does anyone from OSF pay attention to our questions/suggestions?
14) Does OSF have an application compliance validation service?
15) What is the motif-talk mailing list?
16) What MIT patches do I use, and when do I use fix-osf?
17) How does Motif work with X11R5?
18)  How can I find which version of Motif I have?
19) TOPIC: LITERATURE
20)  What books should I read or do I need to program using Motif?
21) TOPIC: MWM
22) What is the difference between Motif and mwm?
23) Does anyone have an alternative set of 3-D defaults for a monochrome screen?
24)  How can I modify the Motif window manager decorations?
25)  How can I turn off the Motif window manager functions from the system menu?
26)  How can tell I if the user has selected the "Close" item on the system menu attached to the top-level shell?
27)  Is there an mwm virtual desktop manager?
28) TOPIC: MOTIF GENERATORS
29)*  What prototyping tools are there to generate Motif code?
30) TOPIC: TEXT WIDGET
31) Why does  pressing  <return> in a text widget do nothing?
32) When I add text to a scrolling text widget how can I get the new text to show?
33)* Does the text widget support 16 bit character fonts?
34) How can I stop the text widget from echoing characters typed?
35) How can I replace characters typed with say a `*'?
36) How can I best add a large piece of text to a scrolled text widget?
37) How can I highlight text in the Text widget?
38)  How can I select all of the text in a widget programmatically?
39) How can I change colours of text in the Text widget?
40) How can I change the font of text in the Text widget?
41) Is there an emacs binding for the text widget?
42) How can I use a file as the text source for a Text widget?
43) How can put Text in overstrike mode instead of insert?
44) How can I make the Delete key do a backspace?
45) TOPIC: LIST WIDGET
46) How do I best put a new set of items into a list?
47)  Can I have strings with different fonts in a list?
48) Can I get a bitmap to show in a list item like I can in a Label?
49) Can I have items with different colours in a list?
50) Can I grey out an item in a list?
51)  Can I have multi-line items in a list?
52)+How can I tell the position of selected items in a list?
53) TOPIC: FILE SELECTION BOX WIDGET
54) What is libPW.a and do I need it?
55) What are these compile errors: Undefined symbol _regcmp?
56) What's wrong with the Motif 1.0 File Selection Box?
57) TOPIC: FORM WIDGET
58) Why don't labels in a Form resize when the label is changed?
59) How can I center a widget in a form?
60) How do I line up two columns of widgets of different types?
61) TOPIC: PUSHBUTTON WIDGET
62) Why can't I use accelerators on buttons not in a menu?
63) TOPIC: LABEL WIDGET
64) How can I align the text in a label (button, etc) widget?
65) Why doesn't label alignment work in a RowColumn?
66)  How can I set a multiline label?
67)  How can I have a vertical label?
68)  How can I have a Pixmap in a Label?
69) TOPIC: DRAWING AREA WIDGET
70) How can I send an expose event to a Drawing Area widget?
71) How can I know when a DrawingArea has been resized?
72) TOPIC: MENUS
73) What can I put inside a menu bar?
74) Can I have a cascade button without a submenu in a pulldown menu?
75) Should I have a cascade button without a submenu in a pulldown menu?
76)  What is the best way to create popup menus?
77)  How do popup menus work?
78)  Should I use translation tables or actions for popup menus?
79)  What are the known bugs in popup menus?
80)  Can I have multiple popup menus on the same widget?
81) TOPIC: INPUT FOCUS
82) How can I direct the keyboard input to a particular widget?
83)  How can I have a modal dialog which has to be answered before the application can continue?
84) TOPIC: MEMORY AND SPEED
85)  Why does my application grow in size?
86) Why does my application take a long time to start up?
87) My application is running too slowly. How can I speed it up?
88) TOPIC: XMSTRING
89) How can I get the Ascii text out of an XmString?
90) When can XmStrings used as resources be freed?
91) Why doesn't XmStringGetNextSegment() work properly?
92) TOPIC: DIALOGS
93) How do I stop my dialog disappearing when I press the help button?
94) How do I make my own dialog?
95) How come the title bars for my dialogs now have "_popup" or "<-popup" concatenated onto the widget name?
96) How can I force a dialog window to display?
97) How can I control placement of a popup widget?
98) TOPIC: LANGUAGE BINDINGS
99)*  Is there a C++ binding for Motif?
100)+ How can I have a C++ member function in a callback?
101)* Is there a Common Lisp binding for Motif?
102)  Is there an Ada binding for Motif?
103) TOPIC: SPECIFIC PLATFORMS
104) Is it easy to build Motif for a Sun?
105) What compile errors/warnings might I get in both Sun 3 and Sun 4?
106) On a Sun 3, what are the mwm startup error messages about?
107) Are there problems making shared libraries on a Sun?
108)  The OpenWindows server hangs when I popup a menu with Button 3.
109) Has anyone made shared libraries on an IBM RS/6000?
110)  What is the error  "Unaligned access in XmString" under Ultrix?
111) TOPIC: KEYSYMS
112)  What is causing the messages "unknown keysym osfDown..."?
113) What happens if I can't install Motif Keysyms?
114) Why has OSF introduced Keysyms into Motif 1.1?
115) TOPIC: ICONS
116) How can I keep track of changes to iconic/normal window state?
117) How can I check if my application has come up iconic?
118) How can I start my application in iconic state?
119) How can an application iconify itself?
120) How can an application de-iconify itself?
121) TOPIC: MISCELLANEOUS
122)+ What is the matter with Frame in Motif 1.2?
123)  What is IMUG and how do I join it?
124)  How do I set the title of a top level window?
125)  Can I use editres with Motif?
126)  How can I put decorations on transient windows using olwm?
127) Why does an augment translation appear to act as replace for some widgets?
128) How do you "grey" out a widget so that it cannot be activated?
129) Why doesn't the Help callback work on some widgets?
130) Where can I get a Table widget?
131)  Has anyone done a bar graph widget?
132)  Does anyone know of a source code of a graph widget
133)  Is there a help system available, such as in Windows 3?
134) Can I specify a widget in a resource file?
135) Why are only some of my translations are being installed?
136)  Where can I get the PanHandler code?
137) What are these passive grab warnings?
138) How do I have more buttons than three in a box?
139)  How do I create a "busy working cursor"?
140)  What order should the libraries be linked in?
141)  How do I use xmkmf for Motif clients?
142)  How do I make context sensitive help?
143) TOPIC: ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS

If you have suggestions or corrections for any of these answers or any
additional information, please send them directly to [e-mail];
the information will be included in the next revision (or possibly the one
after that; thanks for the many suggestions which haven't been incorporated
yet).  The answers in this iteration are acknowledged to be partial.

This posting is intended to be distributed at approximately the beginning of
each month.

The information contained herein has been gathered from a variety of sources. In
many cases attribution has been lost; if you would like to claim responsibility
for a particular item, please let us know.

Conventions used below: telephone numbers tend to be Bell-system unless
otherwise noted; prices on items are not included.








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Subject:  0) TOPIC: WHAT ARE OTHER RELEVANT NEWSGROUPS?

[Last modified: Dec 92]

Answer: This newsgroup is comp.windows.x.motif.  The nearest related group is
comp.windows.x.  It also maintains an FAQ, which deals in all sorts of X, Xlib
and Xt questions. Look there for answers to questions such as "How do I get a
screendump of my application?", "where do I get X11R4", etc.  Other groups
which may have relevant information are comp.windows.x.pex,
comp.windows.x.apps, comp.windows.x.intrinsics, comp.windows.news,
comp.windows.misc and comp.windows.open-look.

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Subject:  1) TOPIC: FTP ARCHIVES

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Subject:  2)* Is the FAQ list available for FTP anywhere?

[Last modified: November 92]

Answer: A number of FAQ's (including this one) are available for anonymous ftp
at pit-manager.mit.edu, 18.172.1.27 under the directory pub/usenet.  (Motif is
under pub/usenet/comp.windows.x.motif) There is also a mail server called
[e-mail].  To retrieve a file send mail to the server
with a subject or body similar to

        send usenet/comp.windows.x.motif/Frequently_Asked_Questions_About_Motif_(Part_1_of_3)

This service is looked after by Jonathan Kamens ([e-mail]).

It has also been placed in contrib/Motif-FAQ at export.lcs.mit.edu.

The FAQ is also available from csc.canberra.edu.au (137.92.1.1) by anonymous
ftp.  It is in the file /pub/motif/Motif-FAQ

This files are also accessible from WAIS (Wide Area Information System) under
UC-Motif-FAQ, allowing keyword-based searches of the FAQ.

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Subject:  3)*  Is this newsgroup accessible via email?

[Last modified: December 92]

Answer: An email link was maintained by Kee Hinckley. To join, send mail to
[e-mail] or [e-mail].  However, Kee
has indicated that he doesn't want to do this anymore, and the state of the
mail service is uncertain.

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Subject:  4) Is this newsgroup archived?

[Last modified: November 1992]

Answer: The newsgroup files from August 1991 are available from
csc.canberra.edu.au (137.92.1.1) by anonymous ftp.  They are in the directory
/pub/motif/comp.windows.x.motif.

These files are also accessible from WAIS (Wide Area Information System) under
comp.windows.x.motif, allowing keyword-based searches of the newsgroup
articles (this time on machine services.canberra.edu.au (137.92.1.12)).

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Subject:  5) Is the mail list motif-talk archived?

Answer: If you have purchased support from OSF then you have access to their
archive server for motif-talk.

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Subject:  6) TOPIC: OSF AND MOTIF

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Subject:  7)*  What versions of Motif are there?
[Last modified: November 92]

Answer: Motif 1.0 is based on the R3 toolkit.  There are patch releases to
1.0: 1.0.1, 1.0.A, 1.0.2 and 1.0.3, 1.0.4, 1.0.5. 1.0.A was a fairly major
patch, as it involved a complete re-engineering of UIL and Mrm.  Almost
everyone who has 1.0.x has either 1.0.A or 1.0.3.

Motif 1.1 is based on the R4 toolkit.  The intial version was Motif 1.1.0.
Motif 1.1.1 has been released as a patch to licensees with Full Support or
Technical Update service.  Motif 1.1.2 is a patch release which contains the
necessary changes to fix over 80 bugs reported against Motif. It is available
to support contract holders (including both full support and update service).
The 1.1.3 release fixed a further 150 bugs and was available from August 1991
to support contract holders (including both full support and update service).
1.1.4 offers X11R5 support, but is not an X11R5 product.  1.1.5 was released
in June 92 to licensees who hold a Motif Full Support or Update Support
contract

Motif 1.2.0 was released in April 1992 and is based on the X11R5 toolkit.  It
offers increased compatibility with international standards,  PC-style
behavior and binary compatibility with OSF/Motif 1.1 applications.  New
features include drag-and-drop, tear- off menus, toolkit enhancements and new
documentation.  toolkit.  The code is totally ANSI C.  OSF distributes a 10
pages sheet entitled "OSF/Motif R1.1 to R1.2: detailed overview of changes",
which is available from OSF Motif direct channels.  (617-621-7300 or email
[e-mail])

Motif 1.2.1 was released September 92.  Due to an optimisation from 1.2.0 to
1.2.1 object code compiled under 1.2.1 (that is, using 1.2.1 header files)
will not link with 1.2.0 libraries (and, very probably, clients that use
shared libraries and are linked against 1.2.1 won't startup against 1.2).

From [e-mail]: "Motif 2.0 will ship well before the sun burns out,
unless we decide to change the name first, and will contain a free plastic
spaceman in every box."

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Subject:  8)*  Where can I get Motif?

[Last modified: November 92]

Answer:
    Various hardware vendors produce developer's toolkits of binaries, header
files, and documentation; check your hardware vendor, particularly if that
vendor is an OSF member. Systems known to be shipping now: HP (sans UIL),
Apollo (sans UIL), SCO, ICS, Mips (RISCwindows=X11R3 + full Motif), IBM, Data
General for AViioNs (includes UIL), Bull (?), Concurrent Computer Corporation
5000, 6000, 8000 series machines, Convex, Sequent.

    In addition, independent binary vendors produce Motif toolkits . ICS makes
several binary kits, notably for Sun, DEC, Apple; Quest (408-496-1900) sells
kits for Suns, as well; IXI ([phone]) offers kits for Sun3 (SunOS 3.5
or later, and Sun4 (SunOS 4.0.1 or later). Unipalm XTech ([phone]; or
Aurora Technologies 617-577-1288 in USA) offers a binary kit for Suns based on
Motif 1.1, with shared libraries.  NSL ([phone]; [e-mail])
offers kits for the Sun 3 and Sun 4.  [An FAQ is for "personal opinions" on
these toolkits.  I don't think it is appropriate to give such opinions through
this particular posting, so I haven't included any.] In Australia, Information
Technology Consultants Pty Ltd has Motif 1.1.2 for Sun Sparc 4.1 ( phone on
[phone], fax on [phone] or e-mail to [e-mail])
SILOGIC (+33 61.57.95.95), 78 chemin des Sept Deniers - 31200 TOULOUSE FRANCE
sells Motif 1.1 and 1.2 on Sun4 machines. They also provide customers with
Motif maintenance and support, and do consulting on the X window System at
large, including software development.



  The kits include varied levels of bug-fixing and support for shared
libraries.  BIM (Fax : [phone]) offer Motif 1.1 for Sun-3, Sun-4,
Sun-386i. Includes shared libraries.  Metrolink Inc. ([phone],
[e-mail]; in Europe contact ADNT, (33 1) 3956 5333) ships an
implementation of X11R4 and Motif 1.1 for several 386 systems.

    An OSF/Motif source license must be obtained from OSF before source can be
obtained from the Open Software Foundation. Call the Direct Channel Desk at
OSF at 617-621-7300 or email [e-mail] for ordering information.  In
addition to the full Motif source, "option C" allows you to purchase source
for the window manager mwm to run on X terminals.


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Subject:  9) Is there a list of Motif bugs?

Answer: With each patch release of Motif shipped, there is a list of known
bugs provided.  The filename on the tape is "./OPENBUGS".  There is also a
list of all the issues closed/resolved in that patch.  That is found as part
of the "./README-1.1.n" (where n is the patch number) file.

These are the only OSF published lists.

No-one else seems to publish a list.


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Subject: 10) Where can I get public domain Motif source?

Answer: You cannot.  Motif source is not publically available.


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Subject: 11)  Are the Motif examples publically available?

[Last modified: November 92]

Answer: OSF has produced a list of which of the example programs can be
distributed. Call OSF Direct for a copy of it.  Most of the example programs
have been freed from distribution limitations so should be available.

In addition to these, many programs on export.lcs.mit.edu in the contrib
directory use Motif.  Source code posted to comp.sources.x often uses Motif.
The examples from Dan Heller's book are on export in
/contrib/OReilly/motif/examples.tar.Z.  The examples from Doug Young's book
are on export in /contrib/young.motif.Z The examples from Thomas Berlages's
book are on export in /contrib/berlage.motif.Z The examples from Donald L.
McMinds's book are on export in /contrib/mastering.motif.tar.Z The examples
from Jan Newmarch's book are export in /contrib/newmarch.tar.Z



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Subject: 12)  Has anyone done a public domain Motif lookalike?

[Last modified: September 92]

Answer: Not yet.  The specification is available (AES), and the validation
suite can be bought, but no-one has taken up the challenge.  There are some
commercial lookalikes (Looking Glass and Neuron Data), but no workalikes.

Applications that follow the Style Guide might be certified Motif-compliant
through the checklist process, even though they're not using OSF/Motif
binaries.

Tcl is available for ftp from allspice.berkeley.edu, and although implemented
without Xt, is reported to look like Motif.  Strom Sytems (18666 Redmond Way
o-2118, Redmond, WA 98052-6725) have a Simple Toolkit for X-Windows (sic) that
appears to follow the Style Guide even though it doesn't quite look like
Motif.

MOOLIT is a USL product that can be runtime switched between the Sun Open Look
and Motif appearance.  It is based on  OLIT 4i.


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Subject: 13) Does anyone from OSF pay attention to our questions/suggestions?

Answer: Yes, and they quite often post answers too. But they may not respond
to *your* problem because they have other things to do as well.  This
newsgroup is not run by OSF, and has no formal connection with OSF.  OSF is a
member-driven company.  The membership (and anyone can be a member) provides
the primary input for future development of Motif.

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Subject: 14) Does OSF have an application compliance validation service?

Answer: They have a checklist and a certification process which you can
request from them.  Ask for the Level One Certification Checklist.  The
process is one of self-certification.  It tests only the appearance and
behavior of the application against Motif style.  The product will also be put
in the OSF reference listing.  There's a one-time fee of $250.  According to
the master license agreement, you can't use any OSF identifying mark unless
you have done a certification.


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Subject: 15) What is the motif-talk mailing list?

Answer: The motif-talk mailing list is only for those who have purchased a
Motif source code license. You can be placed on this list by emailing to
[e-mail], citing your Company name and source license
number.



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Subject: 16) What MIT patches do I use, and when do I use fix-osf?

Answer: The Motif 1.1.0 tape contains MIT patches 1-14. Apply these and any
others you can get.  If your MIT patch level only goes up to fix-16, you also
need to apply fix-osf.  Fix-osf was an emergency patch for a problem that
existed when the Motif 1.1 tape was cut, The MIT fix-17 completely superseded
osf-fix, so if you have applied fix-17 do not apply fix-osf.  The 1.1.1 tape
contains MIT fixes 15-18, as well as an OSF-developed fix that deals with a
subtle bug in the Selection mechanism of the Intrinsics.  Most people will
have fix-15 to 18 by now; if you don't have them:

        Back out fix-osf if you have applied it
        Apply fix-15 to 18
        Apply fix-osf-1.1.1

The Selection fix was submitted to MIT, who came up with a different fix.  It
will not be made into an R4 fix but should be in R5. The MIT fix was posted to
motif-talk.


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Subject: 17) How does Motif work with X11R5?

Answer: Motif 1.1.X is only intended to be built with X11R4.  Motif 1.2.X is
for X11R5.  however, Motif 1.1.4 has been set to also work with X11R5.